Comments on: I Am Punisher (Black) http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:54:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Eli http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-39827 Eli Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:42:56 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-39827 I waited 19 years to discover what happened after punisher turned black. 2 issues? I am so disappointed. Aw well, what do you expect from the early 90s? I do believe it was that year that all those black / white buddy-cop dramas started showing up. Still too early for Frank to blast away at racist cops - I mean, they <i>are</i> criminals and all. Did they ever do a Frank goes arab story line? I waited 19 years to discover what happened after punisher turned black. 2 issues? I am so disappointed. Aw well, what do you expect from the early 90s? I do believe it was that year that all those black / white buddy-cop dramas started showing up. Still too early for Frank to blast away at racist cops – I mean, they are criminals and all. Did they ever do a Frank goes arab story line?

]]> By: Sterling Huff http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-38327 Sterling Huff Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:35:26 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-38327 Black is beautiful. Power to the people. Black is beautiful. Power to the people.

]]> By: Michael Reed http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-37156 Michael Reed Fri, 28 May 2010 04:14:28 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-37156 Since when does Black Nationalism equal anti-white? You can spout how African-American you are all you want (which I'm assuming you're using to validate your viewpoint) but your speaking is from a white-centric viewpoint of what American Blacks are. Akelexre, you state the Black Panther's were extreme and militant. This is true but they always maintained that the laws for Americans should be able to be upheld by ALL Americans. One noteworthy example of this is the American right to bear arms. They carried their fire arms, in plain view, to make the point that baring arms wasn't just a white American right. For this they got labeled militant. Since when does exemplifying the mandates stipulated in the constitution make you militant? I also question your "I’ve just never felt comfortable with BP’s character. Then again, growing up as an African-American in a largely African-American city exposed me to an idea of what the Black Panthers are that others might not have had as children." (Again the I'm African-American to validate your viewpoint). A Black Muslim pointed out to me once, in no uncertain terms, "that there are many African-Americans who are just Black skinned whites in disguise. Note them by their speaking. A man's true nature comes from his speaking, and if the speaking isn't in accord with who he appears to be on the outside, there is a disconnect. Pity him for he knows not who he is." I bring this up because this thread is concerned with why Blacks in comics are so poorly and cliche ridden. Bill Cosby tried to show that Blacks in America didn't have to divorce themselves from their heritage while being American. The gains groups like The Black Panther party had to do, were done so succeeding generations of American Blacks could "feel uncomfortable' with African comic characters. The freedoms Blacks now have in this country are a direct result of those struggles which were paid by groups like The Black Panther Party. The price was their willingness to be perceived as villains. The Black Panther comic character is not (nor need be) even remotely connected to the struggles of American Blacks. Writers tried to make a connection many times throughout the BP's run but it never took hold because he wasn't an American Black. He is, and will always be a true African. We are beholding to him by our shared history but the BP character isn't beholding to us outside of the bond that all humans share with each other. The most current series is the most accurate. That's what made it so good. The Black Panther isn't a Black character, he's an African one who is finally being written so. Since when does Black Nationalism equal anti-white? You can spout how African-American you are all you want (which I’m assuming you’re using to validate your viewpoint) but your speaking is from a white-centric viewpoint of what American Blacks are. Akelexre, you state the Black Panther’s were extreme and militant. This is true but they always maintained that the laws for Americans should be able to be upheld by ALL Americans. One noteworthy example of this is the American right to bear arms. They carried their fire arms, in plain view, to make the point that baring arms wasn’t just a white American right. For this they got labeled militant. Since when does exemplifying the mandates stipulated in the constitution make you militant?
I also question your “I’ve just never felt comfortable with BP’s character. Then again, growing up as an African-American in a largely African-American city exposed me to an idea of what the Black Panthers are that others might not have had as children.” (Again the I’m African-American to validate your viewpoint).
A Black Muslim pointed out to me once, in no uncertain terms, “that there are many African-Americans who are just Black skinned whites in disguise. Note them by their speaking. A man’s true nature comes from his speaking, and if the speaking isn’t in accord with who he appears to be on the outside, there is a disconnect. Pity him for he knows not who he is.”

I bring this up because this thread is concerned with why Blacks in comics are so poorly and cliche ridden. Bill Cosby tried to show that Blacks in America didn’t have to divorce themselves from their heritage while being American. The gains groups like The Black Panther party had to do, were done so succeeding generations of American Blacks could “feel uncomfortable’ with African comic characters. The freedoms Blacks now have in this country are a direct result of those struggles which were paid by groups like The Black Panther Party. The price was their willingness to be perceived as villains.

The Black Panther comic character is not (nor need be) even remotely connected to the struggles of American Blacks. Writers tried to make a connection many times throughout the BP’s run but it never took hold because he wasn’t an American Black. He is, and will always be a true African. We are beholding to him by our shared history but the BP character isn’t beholding to us outside of the bond that all humans share with each other.

The most current series is the most accurate. That’s what made it so good. The Black Panther isn’t a Black character, he’s an African one who is finally being written so.

]]> By: Radlum http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-34420 Radlum Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:48:28 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-34420 Dear god...this is so dumb I have to find those issues and buy them Dear god…this is so dumb I have to find those issues and buy them

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]]> By: mike baron http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1881 mike baron Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:02:34 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1881 No prob. The Republicans seem to have deserted me. They don't seem to stand for anything any more. No prob. The Republicans seem to have deserted me. They don’t seem to stand for anything any more.

]]> By: Dan Coyle http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1878 Dan Coyle Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:04:45 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1878 Mr. Baron: Then I seriously apologize for the Republican crack. Mr. Baron: Then I seriously apologize for the Republican crack.

]]> By: JohnnyZito http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1876 JohnnyZito Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:50:12 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1876 Aside from Lois and Frank who else has been black for a day? Any temporary Asians? Aside from Lois and Frank who else has been black for a day?

Any temporary Asians?

]]> By: z ryan http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1875 z ryan Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:37:27 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1875 Akelexre, I agree with your thoughts on Black Panther. Akelexre, I agree with your thoughts on Black Panther.

]]> By: chazervin http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1873 chazervin Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:25:49 +0000 http://www.the-isb.com/?p=81#comment-1873 Thanks for that historical tidbit, Mike! Thanks for that historical tidbit, Mike!

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